April 19th – National Hanging Out Day with Eugene Leventhal

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Today’s guest is Eugene Leventhal, a host of the Consequential podcast.

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Hey. This is Paul Kondo. This is the Podcast Gumbo podcast and I’ve got a rhetorical question for ya.

Are you like me and find those things we call National Days, like Cheeseball Day or worse, Moldy Cheese Day, amusing? Yeah, me too. So each week, I’ll have one of my podcast friends challenge me to find an episode related to one of those days and I’ll be releasing it on the actual day it occurs. 

So, let’s get to it. What is today’s National Day?

Hey Paul, today, April 19th, is National Hanging Out Day. I’ve never heard of it before but I figured with all the social distancing that’s happened, there’s probably no shortage of hanging out to catch up on. Turns out, the day has a pretty different and environmental focus. So Paul, how do I hang out today? And any suggestions for those without a big yard are appreciated. Thanks and be well. 

Interesting. For some reason, my guest wants to be anonymous. Is he afraid of admitting he knows me? It is National Hanging Out Day after all. 

But this day is not what you think it is. It’s about encouraging communities to learn about going old-school… and drying your laundry on a clothesline and all the benefits that come from doing that.

For my first recommendation, I probably would’ve opted for an episode from 99% Invisible’s Articles of Interest. But my guest made my life even harder by picking that for himself. 

Ultimately, I narrowed down my options to:

a) an episode of nothing but a dryer running for 20 minutes


b) an interview with Alexander Lee, the person who founded Project Laundry List, which is making air-drying and cold-water washing laundry acceptable and desirable as simple and effective ways to save energy. 

So, if you choose to save a little money and also be environmentally friendly, hang your clothes out to dry and share a photo using the National Hanging Out Day hashtag.

Ok, the secret is out. Today’s guest is Eugene Leventhal. Eugene is a host of the Consequential podcast, from Carnegie Mellon University’s Block Center for Technology and Society. 

Consequential is a podcast that looks at the human side of technological change and develops meaningful plans of action for policymakers, technologists and everyday people to build the kind of future that reduces inequality, improves quality of life and considers humanity.

You may think that this show is going to fly way above your head but I can assure you it won’t because even I understood it. The Black Box episode talks about algorithms which are just a set of instructions. They start off with two interesting examples, one of a young shopper at Target and Amazon’s secret recruiting tool. 

For our third recommendation today, I mentioned Eugene beating me to the punch. He recommends the Blue Jeans episode from the 99% Invisible mini-series, Articles of Interest. In it, it talks about some of the environmental impacts of clothing and jeans specifically.

For today’s Extra Hot Sauce, we have a bonus show. Eugene just launched his own personal podcast called The History of Drugs in Society. The podcast explores the history of different substances and how we’ve lived alongside and interacted with them.

So that’s it for this week’s show. Come back on April 25th if you want to be allusioned.

As always, take a look at the show notes for links to all the podcasts mentioned in this episode as well as other life-altering information. To make it easy for you, there’s also a link to a podcast playlist that will contain all the episodes ever mentioned in this show. 

See you next week sometime for another round of recommendations. 

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